, they want an energy tax. something they didn't mention during the campaign. there is a whole series of damaging things. the market see this is is not exactly a healthy plan for the economy. of course you have a lousy growth rate as long as you have democrats threatening to throw tax increases on the economy. in addition to the regulatory burden, you've got french rates of economic growth. >> all right. but let's say we let the bush tax cuts expire at the end of the year and then congress moved to increase tax rates? would that count? would that violate the pledge? >> that would clearly be -- you gont to the american people and say we raised taxes $500 billion and then we cut it $400 billion, please look at the cut and not the overall rate. if you raise taxes $100 million on american people, they're going to notice it. i doesn't pass the laugh test. >> thank you for being us with again. >> you got it. >> the talk does sound vaguely promising from the president. >> let's rise above the dysfunction and do the ri